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Date Posted: 2012-03-03 20:51:20.
Subject: China’s Business jet Market Explodes
Name: aaachina
Message: The otherwise dormant Chinese business jet market has come to a turning point, triggered by the air control relax reform. This week, Airbus and Boeing have held their press conference, predicting that each of them will sell over 5 business jets to China each year, while Bombardier also showed that over the next 10 years, total sales of business jets in China will reach over 600 units.

According to Li Bing, sales superintendent of Boeing Greater China, government, large corporates, business leaders etc are their main clients. This year Boeing is expected to deliver 3 business jets, mainly to VIP charters such as Hainan Airlines, and Air China. Upto now Boeing has sold 195 business jets worldwide. Although only with 8 Boeing jets, China is among the fastest growing regions.

Comparatively, Airbus’s business jet marketing in China is much quicker. Among its 170 sets of business jets sold worldwide, China owned 20. This year Airbus has already sold 2 jets to China, to be delivered to Deerjet and Southern Airlines. Last year, Airbus sold 15 business jets worldwide, China took 15%.

The largest business jets represented by BBj (Boeing) and ACj (Airbus) with dozens of passenger capacity, have a space 4 times that of smaller ones such as Bombardier and Gulfstream. Their flight range is also much longer. However, with the convenience of spareparts and repair service sharing of their mainstream jets, their operation cost is yet lower than those smaller jets, therefore the big business jets of Boeing and Airbus have been securing their position as the topmost business jet suppliers.

In the myriad of business aircraft types, helicopter is also an important member. EuroCopter, world’s largest helicopter manufacturer said, along with the opening of the low sky, demand of helicopters in China will also be released, which is suppressed for too long.

Recent data showed that currently China has no more than 100 private jets, while the U.S. has more than 18000 business aircrafts.

At the moment, the Beijing Capital Airlines, which is a joint venture of Hainan Airlines and Beijing Capital Tourism, is the largest business jet operator, Its predecessor was the Deerjet. Capital Airlines has 24 business jets, and hence has the largest fleet in Asia Pacific region, accounting for 90% of China’s total fleet. To meet with the market change of wealth redistribution to the Orient, China Airlines, Eastern Airlines and Southern Airlines are also planning for the business aviation.

China Airlines plans to set up a joint venture with the Beijing Municipal Government to operate VIP chartering. A new type of BBj jet will be purchased. Previously the China Airlines has only 4 Gulfstream jets under management. Eastern Airlines invested RMB 50 million in a business jet charter company in 2008, and plans to increase its fleet to 3 this year. Southern Airlines, until now not yet involved in business aviation, has also planned to procure a ACj business jet, and will probably found an independent business jet company.

However, air control in China has impeded the business jet chartering. Passengers are unable to drive directly to beside the jet to get aboard, nor can they alter their route at the last moment. In addition, apart from a few cities with business jet terminals, the rest of Chinese cities have no specialized facilities for business charters. These two factors have become the two largest barriers towards successful development of the Chinese business aviation market and industry, therefore, industry insiders predict that it needs time before the market will really take off.

Mr Chen Minghua, CEO of AAA (www.helioslab.org)
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Date Posted: 2005-09-07 08:20:00.
Subject: URGENT need help in pilot eject system
Name:
Message: i am an undergraduate from a university. we are now working on an assignment on design a system of jet eject seat. and we need to use the numerical method and MATLAB program to simulate the result. well, hope you all might help us, suggest us, help us in solving this problem..

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an British Aerospace jet - Hawk (MK 108 & 208), need an eject seat system.

the eject seat need to fulfill the following spec.

the jet flying angel = +/- 30 degree
the maximum high of the ejected seat = 0.03 - 0.125km
the distance of the ejected seat landing from the jet = 0.10 - 0.25km
speed of the jet = mach 1.1
seat mechanism + max load = 110kg
the maximum acceleration to eject the seat = 22g

we need to find out a system to safely eject the pilot from the plane
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Date Posted: 2012-04-04 23:24:33.
Subject: Meiya Air Headquartered in Sanya & Seaplane
Name: samward
Message: On March 26th, Meiya Air headquartered in Sanya & seaplane delivery and order signing ceremony mainly organized by Sanya Municipal People’s Government and CAAC Central and Southern Regional Administration, assisted by Meiya Air Co., Ltd. was held in Sanya. Vice Mayor of Sanya Zhou Gaoming participated the ceremony entrusted by Mayor of Sanya Wang Yong. Vice Director of CAAC Central and Southern Regional Administration Qin Xisheng, Stationmaster of CAAC Sanya Air Traffic Management Station Lan jianqiong, Director of CAAC Sanya Safety Oversight Administration An Yingze, Division Chief of GA Department of CAAC Central and Southern Regional Administration Feng Hongsheng, Director of Sanya Development and Reform Commission Zhang Li, Director of Financial Bureau of Sanya Xu Huanzhong, Director of Urban Planning Bureau of Sanya Su jinming, Director of Sanya Resource Bureau of Land and Environment Cheng Chunman, Director of Transportation Bureau of Sanya Huang Xinghai, Director of Sanya Marine Fishery Agency Zhang Huazhong, Director of Sanya Maritime Safety Administration Zhang Xipeng, Director of Sanya Land Reserve Center ji Duanrong, Chairman of Sanya Urban Investment and Development Co., Ltd. Li Wei, International Sales Vice President of Cessna Aircraft Company Bill Harris, and Commercial Officer of American Consulate General Guangzhou jay Biggs have participated the ceremony.

General Manager of Meiya Air Deng jun introduced: Meiya Air is a complete GA operation industry chain integrated with the GA policy and tourism resources in Hainan and Sanya. It will drive the subsidiary project constructions. Meiya Air headquarter is composed with four parts as Sanya International Seaplane Center, Meiya Air Industrial Park, Meiya Air Seaplane Operation and Passenger Center and Meiya Air Headquarter Office Building and Living Area. Meiya Air business takes seaplane and amphibian aircraft as main type, combines with major projects such as air tour, air exhibition, flight carnival, aircraft sales, FBO and flight training etc.

In this two Cessna208 aircrafts delivery ceremony, Vice Mayor Zhou Gaoming on behalf of Sanya Government said: the development of Meiya Air program can greatly improve the tourism environment of Sanya and bring social capital. Meanwhile, it can also enhance the high-standard tourism image of Sanya, and increase employment and tax revenue. It will play a dual role to stimulate both the tourism and GA industry in Sanya and Hainan. It will also transfer the land economy of Sanya to marine economy which has innovative significance.

On that day, Meiya Air continued signing the order of 10 aircrafts with the world’s largest GA aircraft manufacturer Cessna. Until 2015, Meiya Air plans to have a fleet of 20 aircrafts in Sanya.

The vice director of CAAC Central and Southern Regional Administration Qin Xisheng concluded: as the first seaplane commercial operation project in China, Meiya Air headquartered in Sanya signifies that Sanya made an important step in the development of GA.
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Date Posted: 2008-08-19 05:25:56.
Subject: jet engine prices
Name: f6hellcat
Message: What do you mean by jet engine prices? jet engin aircraft or just the jet engine? Also are we talking about Buisness jets commercial jets or military jets?
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Date Posted: 2008-05-09 02:13:00.
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Date Posted: 2007-05-21 23:06:56.
Subject: replacment for F-15
Name: firstsgt_cap
Message: Well, the jSF is not replacing the F-15, you have to think about it for a minute. When the USAF is going to replace a plane they're going to replace it with something that does the same job except better. The jSF DOES NOT do the F-15's job it does the F-16 and A-10s job, where as the F-22 does the F-15's job.

Anyway, no matter what we say about it the F-15 will be phased out 20 per year (at the same rate as the delivery of the F-22's) and if the USAF gets what they want then the F-16 will get phased out 200 per year. Those are the facts as of now, but since congress doesn't want to give the air force the money to pay for all of the jSF's that they 'need' it may change for the F-16.
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Date Posted: 2004-10-09 03:57:25.
Subject: against unmanned aircraft
Name:
Message: people who is with me im sick of unmanned aircraft takin ower jobs im a student pilot at the moment here in australia and looking for a carrer in the RAAF when im old enough to join but i always see documentrys on unmanned aircraft it getts me annoyed becuase hey us pilots are here to serve and fly the aircraft u know fair enough u might get shot down but thats what happens in war, let us have the fun of flying a multimillion dollar aircraft and destroying ower targets, we might make a mistake here and there but what happend if the computer suddenly fries or the aircraft gets hacked but some little terriost who listen in computer studdies u might have a situation that u might not have no control and it could destroy what ever it wants (hey anything is possible nower days u never know who your at war with) if a human is in the cockpit flying the aircraft the pilot can shut down the system and then eject u might loos a multimillion dollar aircraft but hey none of the allied troops or government are harmed but theres allways another side of the story u dont just get the technoldegy u need people to creat it and that creats jobs less pilots will die and if the person who is in command of the UAV's for some reason can not fly the aircraft any more he can swop over to another person so you can creat longer missions what im bacly sayin is that pilots train for along period of time im 16 at the moment started flyin at 15 and ill be flying for the rest of my life and when u get excite becuase your joinin the militay and you have been in for a few years trainin and theres a shortage of aircraft then hey the government is goin to buy more aircraft then u find out its a UAV it would get u annoyed because a computer has just taken over you role which you have gone threw the hardest pilots trainin in the country for nothing bacly thats my thorts
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Date Posted: 2007-05-21 14:01:42.
Subject: F/A22 or X35? Which is better
Name: firstsgt_cap
Message: You can't really compare the Raptor and the jSF, they are meant to do different things and to replace different aircraft. The Raptor will replace the F-15 and the jSF will replace the F-16 and A-10. As for replacing the A-10 that is one of the dumbest things anyone has ever thought of considering you can't shoot it down, but it will take the air force a while to actually replace every thing.

Back on topic though, I think the 22 is better than the jSF because: #1The 22 actually has a cannon(only the Marine version of the jSF will have one) #2larger weapons capacity #3The jSF is downright ugly #4what do we need to spend more money on it for if it is just going to get replaced by the time they have actually fulfilled the whole order
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Date Posted: 2007-05-21 14:01:41.
Subject: F/A22 or X35? Which is better
Name: firstsgt_cap
Message: You can't really compare the Raptor and the jSF, they are meant to do different things and to replace different aircraft. The Raptor will replace the F-15 and the jSF will replace the F-16 and A-10. As for replacing the A-10 that is one of the dumbest things anyone has ever thought of considering you can't shoot it down, but it will take the air force a while to actually replace every thing.

Back on topic though, I think the 22 is better than the jSF because: #1The 22 actually has a cannon(only the Marine version of the jSF will have one) #2larger weapons capacity #3The jSF is downright ugly #4what do we need to spend more money on it for if it is just going to get replaced by the time they have actually fulfilled the whole order
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Date Posted: 2007-05-21 13:49:37.
Subject: replacment for F-15
Name: firstsgt_cap
Message: You know the F-15E is staying in service, none of those are being retired, just the F-15A/B/C/D's. Actually thery are keeping 178 of the fighter variants in service, which will be called the Golden Eagles, those will say in service for years to come. All of these aircraft will be upgraded with all kindas of new stuff, including 2X P&W F100-PW-220 which will be the last version of the original F100. The F-15 will also remain in service because it had been overdesigned, instead of the original 4,000 hour life expectance it shoud easliy get past 8,000 hours with major repairs and it should meet and/or excede 16,000 hours fairly easily.

I love the F-15, it is my favorite aircraft, but it is very old unfourtunatly. When I join up, I'll probably go for the F-22.

As for the jSF replacing the 15, thats not how it is working. The jSF is replacing the F-16, and the A-10. I think the jSF is stupid, especially because the only version that has a cannon is the marine one and come now we learned our lesson in vietnam about relying on missiles.

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